UAE injustice system
Attempt murder - three months
Beat up your wife - six months
Molest a child - one year
Steal from charity - one year
Drink, drive, kill - one year
Slash four women - two years
Torture your maid - three years
Rape a woman - three years
Smoke cannabis outside the UAE - four years
Abu Dhabi: A teenager who smoked a cigarette containing hashish while he was in Egypt will serve four years in jail followed by deportation, the Federal Supreme Court has confirmed.
The boy, 18, an Egyptian identified as E.M., smoked a cigarette containing hashish with his friends in Egypt. He smoked it one day before he flew to the UAE.
What a fucking joke.
Beat up your wife - six months
Molest a child - one year
Steal from charity - one year
Drink, drive, kill - one year
Slash four women - two years
Torture your maid - three years
Rape a woman - three years
Smoke cannabis outside the UAE - four years
Abu Dhabi: A teenager who smoked a cigarette containing hashish while he was in Egypt will serve four years in jail followed by deportation, the Federal Supreme Court has confirmed.
The boy, 18, an Egyptian identified as E.M., smoked a cigarette containing hashish with his friends in Egypt. He smoked it one day before he flew to the UAE.
What a fucking joke.
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A friend of mine got into a lot of trouble w/ the government for his addiction to the stuff. He was deported and couldn't complete his education.
If you ask me, I don't think the government should intervene with what people decide to put in their body.
oh wow
these scum make Scalia look good
well a UK citizen had a VERY legal caugh sirop in the UK, and she was sentenced to prison in UAE as she arrived to the airport.
It's in the small print of the Residence Visa paperwork: if you do something that is illegal under UAE law - even when you're outside the UAE - you can be prosecuted within the UAE upon your return.
Or so I'm told.
brilliant. prosecute someone for smoking a joint outside your jurisdiction. that would incriminate about 90% of dubai college, english college, and probably 20% of choiefat.
This is the third world - don't forget that. Just because they were fortunate enough to have someone find oil from them and give them lots of petro-dollars doesn't mean they're still not a backward nation.
Should stick to camel herding - what they do best
Lol, I luv it. The way you phrase your words, obviously you know what you are talking about!not off your hat. keep it up SD
I mean what do people go to amsterdam for? or to Bangkok in that matter?
Or
why do saudis go to Bahrain for?
or
Is it just bad luck for some people?
Onetime I remember, when I went to Ibiza! when I was leaving the airport the Officer asked me: Why I am going there?
I told him: To perform Hajj!
I think they would have found cigarettes containing banned substances with him as well. The report is very inconclusive. Obviously, the kid is lying. He didn't know the cigarettes had hashish in them?? Don't tell me you believe that?
Also, why did the police go over to his premises in the first place? Poor reporting! I would say the journalist who reported this is a fudging joker, too!
If you know you're gonna get four years because you smoked hashish, then maybe you should first:
Try to kill your mother in law. When your wife finds out, beat her up.
Molest your child and torture your maid that saw the whole thing and would dare to tell anyone.
After all this you have to run away... steal from charity to buy a car.
Drink, drive and kill someone on your way.
Because of the drinks and hashish you don't know what your doing anymore, so you slash four women
and rape another.
Well, at least then you know why you have to serve those four years in jail.... :p
t thought that they had changed the law several years ago that if you could prove you were outside the UAE when you took the drugs that they would not prosecute?
setting a new standard for double standards.
Look, I believe in legalizing marijuana. I think I have to clear that up before I say anything else.
Now, you should know the law. If you don't, find out before you do anything that may or may not get you in trouble. If you want to indulge in a bit of hash smoking when on holiday, etc. you have to know that the UAE law considers anything in your system to be possession. Very simple.
Does the law make any sense? Not to me it doesn't. I don't know who came up with it, but I sure would like to understand the rationale behind it.
But, truth of the matter is, this is the law. A lot of laws in a lot of countries are anything but idiotic. Ignorance lands you in jail.
People,
For the love of humanity and justice in this world ... please spread the word .
When this insanity reaches world wide media, then the uae might consider changing its dated unreasonable gruesome laws ,like what happend with the camel jockeys case.
At the same time the 18 year old boy's case will be heard, and he might get a better chance to be released to finish his education and be with his family again.
Do something, spread the word !
I had a discussion with someone about a case just like this from a year or two back...
Them: "I think it's good the government are so strict!"
Me: "But you were just saying a second ago how you think zero-tolerance for drink driving is stupid..."
Them: "But that's an entirely different matter!"
There was also a case involving a girl from new zealand recently who had a small amount of marijuana. They actually had a quote from an officer in new zealand stating it wouldn't be enough for half a marijuana cigarette (http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/978612)
Some of the laws here are absolutely ridiculous; for instance poppy seeds. Sure you can buy a metric ton of them and go on a happy trip, but you can also sniff butane and run into walls at high speeds. Most medical sedatives are apparently illegal too.
An overhaul of the laws has to be the next focus for The Big Boss.
He laid into the Justice Dept. the other day at the big meeting so maybe he has got his eye on it.
Let's hope so.
Four yrs & deportation, more than a little disproportionate I agree.
Besides, like SS said, other stuff is so much more available (and harmful) than pot here.Anyone seen the traffic going past the Omani border lately? And I mean traffic in both senses of the word.
Well. My opinion? Sure it sucks. But hey, don't like the rules, don't live here. Pack up. Get out. Some of the shit in this country IS a joke, but a lot of it is much better than a lot of places.
Can't take it. No worries. Cancel your visa and get out. Simple. Really simple.
so, if a single (not married) woman has seks (the word is blacklisted) outside of the UAE in the morning and lands in Dubai at night...and let's imagine a female custom officer discovers a trace of semen on/in the woman...can the woman be prosecuted for possession..ah, I mean, an illicit and immoral affair???
the story does not make sense, the journalist disclosed only partial information etc...
now, for Dubai's defense, i can only say that if recreational drugs become available to the masses here, than all hell will break loose...imagine the truck (bad example, they are already high on glue) and taxi drivers zooming down Sheikh Zayed...jokes apart, money, prostitution, drugs, sex, armed robberies (1 per year) will make this place a fun place...
well said ermm, u don't like it..get the f*** out
Anon@23:52 - I sometimes start to wonder whether they will start hymen-checking every unmarried woman arriving at Immigration.
For example, if you come over here with your boyfriend, and then discover you are three months pregnant, and quickly get married, you will still go through sheer hell trying to register the baby, because your marriage was not a full nine months before matrimony. Despite the fact that it is absolutely none of the UAE's business that you (legally) had sex or got pregant in your home country before you ever arrived here.
They should not be prosecuting for acts that happen outside their jurisdiction.
It's the hypocrisy that gets me. Do they require marriage certifcates from every tourist that comes over here and books a double room? No. Have they banned celebrities openly known to have taken drugs from entering the UAE? No.
"Should stick to camel herding - what they do best"
i LOVE this comment, and I CERTAINLY agree. A lot of people in dubai are still a total bunch of DIMWITS! My former freakn monkey boss included!
Wow, that's powerful stats right there. Sheesh. 3 months for attempted murder? That's at least 5 years here in the USA.
Stumbled across thru the Blogs of Note. I'll be stopping by regularly after seeing this! Keep it up...
Wasn't there a case just a few weeks ago where an Iranian guy, who had taken something banned here (some kind of prescription medicine, I think) had his appeal upheld on the grounds that the "crime" was committed outside the jurisdiction?
Does precedent count for anything here?
Breaking the law in this country is one thing - and that includes bringing banned cough medicine in with you - but breaking it somewhere else, or even doing something legal, say in Holland, is another matter entirely...
SD@01:07Have they banned celebrities openly known to have taken drugs from entering the UAE?
Wonder if the kids lawyer thought about that ;/
I think people are missing the point of this post.
The post is not about whether we agree with the laws here or whether we agree with the punishment for smoking weed.
The post is about what is considered a crime and how it is punished and the hypocrisy of it all.
Who here thinks smoking a joint is worse than attempted murder??
I have seen sentences where a girl has been gang raped and the rapists get 2 years each?? 2 years?? (and lets not even get into the disparity in sentences for an expat - subcon expats - and a local. for the same crime a subcon gets double of what a local gets - why?? Are locals the chosen people of god?? I thought Islam taught that all people are equal)
Its the stupidity of this place, the hypocrisy, the high and mighty attitude that is really sickening.
And yes I will be leaving shortly. Woo hoo.
SD-
Why drop your jaw at the hypocrisy of UAE laws only? Such is the case almost anywhere you go.
There are always some influential persons who are above the law. There are others whom governments cannot punish simply because they have a lot to lose in terms of PR and business.
Absolute Justice is only found in the Court of the Almighty. I don't say this as an alibi for the shortcomings of law systems here and in other countries that are somehow always answerable to Western idiosyncrasies. I say this because, for example (and now I am talking very generally to all the participants here), some argue that sexual intercourse should not even be the business of the state. We humans are divided into many groups and all of us disagree on lots of things. This is a philosophical topic for some time else perhaps.
If you want everyone to submit to a ubiquitous and "global" system, then please specify what is that ONE system that you are happy with? Also do let us know how will you take care of those minds that will not agree with this "global" system of yours as well.
But then again, America and the "coalition of the willing" are already giving the answers to that. The message that resonates from the West to the East is, "Submit to Democracy". Hypocrisy? Patently flawed? As Fox News would say, "You Decide, we report." Oh no, there's hypocrisy for you AGAIN. Sigh...
The world's tallest towers, fancy residential projects, etc. etc., but at the end of the day it's still a backward nation under all the gloss. Firstly, no one should have the right to prosecute you for something that happened outside their jurisdiction, especially if it didn't harm anyone else. And just take a trip to the clubs at night - half of them are packed with hookers. What a load of double standards from the ragheads.
@ ermmm and sumone.
Took your advice and did it. So did a lot of others.
No regrets. The world is so much better now.
I take it then that you shouldnt complain about SecretDubai's blog. Shes just showing the facts about the place so that the people who dont like it can see reality and decide if they want to leave and the newbies can see what an idiotic hellhole theyre coming into.
She actually made me feel so much better about moving, you should say thank you to her for showing the whiners (like me) move and feel great about it.
Be happy.
Is this blog affiliated with Fox news? Damn.
Most of you are doing quite well right here, this country has been good to you. Criticise, but please do not do it with hate.
Its not perfect right here, lots of inefficient nepotism, and the rulers are not exactly what you would call "just", or honest. But please remember the locals are victims of the system as well. And they got to live here all their lives, most of you came on your own free will, and can leave when the shit gets hot.
If you want to criticise, do it properly and to the deserving i.e the rulers over here, and not some spineless attacks on every local cause you dont dare criticise the people that matter. You just appear ignorant, and hateful.
ermm, sumon e, s.
took same advice and did it. got the hell out of dubai. and life is so much better now too.like balls & chain off my neck. saw the last of the terrible place after a year. happy in north africa now. no towers coming right between my legs, no 4 hour traffic jams, and a little less money? who cares , i get to keep a lot more if it, unlike dubai where it all comes and goes before you even see it. whiners, do something if you really have it in you. land of mediocrity and underachievers in porsches...lol
The punishments differ by each emirate law don't they? All of them other crimes were not in Abu Dhabi emirate. While I'm not condoning the sentences at all, maybe the sentences would be much higher if they were in Abu Dhabi? I wonder what his punishment would have been if it was Dubai for example?
Off topic for a moment: SD you've been tagged over at The Taxi.
This is outrageous!
I understand that here you can not consume such stuff, it has a sever penalty, and everybody must go by the book!
But when you are on vacation, dam … you are on freaking vacation!
Human beings should be entitled to express their life style somewhere!!?
I mean while maintaining their job or study!
I’m so upset,
And for that matter, worried, do I have to cancel my vacation now in Europe?
And spend it in Saudi?
THIS IS SO SAD
Whoever reads this blogs will probably think Dubai is a hell hole. Ofcourse nothing could be farther from the truth. Dubai was and still is a big opportunity for a lot of people. People have made it here, improved their lives and that of their families. It does have its warts, but so do most places.
Please dont slag a place that has provided opportunities for so many people.
I understand its not as good perhaps as some other countries overseas which are more advanced, but so what. Atleast its trying, and in the process gave jobs and opportunities to people.
Its living standards get compared to the west, for example USA, Canada, Australia, Newzealand etc. These countries are elevated to the status of angels somehow by people. These countries are huge, USA is three times the size of western Europe, Canada is bigger, Australia is a continent in its own right.
The countries above were originally home to hundreds and hundreds of different cultures and languages. Allof them were exterminated, exterminated like pests. All for some delusional concept of skin colour loyalty bullshit, and our way is better than yours. For centuries these lands were hell on earth to these peoples. Humiliated in the worst possible way. You could multiply this for the caribbean, and whole of latin america.
Now suddenly some brainy ass says how these countries are heaven on earth, populated by angels. Bullshit. I'm not saying these countries are bad now, of course they have moved on, and have become fantastic places, where human dignity is respected. But please dont make these places as if they were whiter than white.
Every country has skeletons, ours are far less full than some.
Are the countries above better than Dubai now, ofcourse they are.
But that statement is in the eye of the beholder. Its certainly not true for the american Indian, Aborigine or mauri.
cmon, nobody is saying europe or US is heaven. but then Dubai should also stop saying it is heaven in all its manipulated media.stop writing only about green towers and golden islands and biggest and largest and fattest and all that. write for a moment also about human existence there. write for a moment about how it is a city of 5000 taxis for 2 million people.write for a moment about how plastic and artificial and soulless, and hypocritical it is. and world's best weather...give me a break for god's sake. 90% of people in dubai have only seen their own home country, and dubai.
if reporting about dubai was realistic, and if you trash it the way our hero above trashes US and Europe, then you will see this blodsite also talking positives of Dubai, not just negatives. TRUTH will prevail.
HAPPY IN AFRICA.
Wasn't there a major cocaine epidemic among local kids about 10 years ago that might partly explain the wacky sentencing here?
I dunno. Four years ain't so bad. It'd be like going to the university of cash value in hard knocks.
In my home country you can walk down the street smoking a joint on the way to or from the bar knowing that the worst a cop's gonna do is slap you with a ticket the government's too overworked and undermotivated to make you pay, because there are more important things to consider - or rather give lip service to - like the plight of the natives whose great-great grandfathers my great-great grandfathers murdered with tubuculor blankets. Their great-great grandsons eat glue for breakfast while I demonstrate my economic power and birth-right ability to generate second chances by traipsing from one country and ruined situation to the next resting assured that there is a place for me in my native country in the end, and it is not on a reservation where the richest men manufacture concrete blocks for rusted out cars on front lawns or run the concession stand at lacrosse games. No, it's in the capitol, with rich, white masters of the universe and upwardly mobile second generation immmigrant friends who're either barbarians at the gates of the lifeblood of my country or both. But they're in, and none of these people go to jail for drugs. If necessary, they become motivational speakers. So the easiest way to go home, I reckon, is to go to jail like this kid did, and then become a one-man brand hawking special insight into the indominitable spirit of all mankind.
By contrast, imagine your home was a simple fishing village 40 years ago. You're holding a blanket.
And consider NY state's Rockafeller laws, wherein the American equivalent of Afghani opium growers go to jail for life after a third bust.
On balance, four years in a UAE jail for ingestion/possession abroad yeah does seem strange when burning a maid with an iron is sorta like j-walking or throwing a pie at Ronald Mcdonald where I come from.
But I don't think it shows one way or another that this is or is not a third world country.
It's a country finding it's norms. When will the courtesies extended to Dallas Austin extend to the rest of us?
does that mean anyone having sex outside dubai and coming back to dubai will be jailed?
OK, so I have read 3 comments of people who say they left Dubai and are happier. But, at least 2 of those 3 are now in Africa.
I can deduce only 2 possibilities from the given facts: (1) These unhappy ex-dubaians were Africans; (2) They are Westerners who have moved on to Africa.
If the former point is true then I am glad you guys are back home and are living a happy life :D However, if it's the second, I guess you STILL haven't really gone back home, have you? I guess the West really does suck to you guys, doesnt it? Or perhaps you feel happier that you are bossing around black people and it all feels too good just like yesteryears when your grandparents were screwing black slaves upside down.
What if the Africans get sick of you and/or decide to kick you out in return for what your fore-fathers did to their fore-fathers? Then you can go and settle down in Antarctica.
I really dont get it: First you tell the Arabs to modernize and when they do you guys are quite obviously jealous and telling them to go back to camel herding. Make up your bloody minds!
Oh yeah, Africa was nearly exterminated as well. King Leopold killed ten million alone in Belgium. God knows how much were taken from East Africa.
I dont know why Africans survived and the other people got exterminated. By extermination I dont mean a dujail massacre, or some minor ethnic cleansing. I mean the extermination of continents. North America, South America, Australia, carribean, countless ethnic groups from Africa. I mean these were stone age people. So every stone throw was a different culture. Now imagine the scale of the extinction. Thousands of languages, ways of thinking, and expressions. Even in africa huge forcible migrations were made of natives people to supply farms for settlers. In alot of these cases the settlers still are in possesion of these lands. Please dont get me wrong, I think what Mugabe is doing is wrong. And property rights need to be respected.
The same people are quick to criticise people here for having no culture, even though no one has destroyed more culture. What irony.
Now I'm not defending the actions of these countries here, I think they are ruled by despots, and alot of things could be improved. But there is no need to be all arrogant, we know best attitude. You can criticise without being xenophobic.
By the way Dubai has provided opportunities for tonnes of small businesses in Africa, and eastern europe. It still provides them for Africa.
Countless africans have made alot of money by coming here and trading. If one were to visit third world country, alot of imports have been bought from here. Alot of people have bettered themselves.
Please give this place a break, there is no need for the shocking hate that is displayed here by some people.
Djeez people!!! This is not about drugs, this is not about racism, this is not about hate against moslims,
THIS IS ABOUT A STUPID LAW of the uae,that put a young boy of 18 years in jail for 4 years, for smoking a joint in another land!
While others in the uae get a few months in jail for attempting murder.
Sigh...
It's the hypocrisy that gets me. Do they require marriage certifcates from every tourist that comes over here and books a double room? No. Have they banned celebrities openly known to have taken drugs from entering the UAE? No.
Sorry to bang on about this, but this is not hypocrisy: it is inconsistency. The rulers of the UAE are extremely hypocritical in that they do things themselves which they then prohibit others from doing in the name of morality, but in prosecuting some but not others for the same act is inconsistency, not hypocrisy.
Please dont slag a place that has provided opportunities for so many people.
And the USA, which you berate later in your post, has provided no opportunties to anyone, of course!
Well. My opinion? Sure it sucks. But hey, don't like the rules, don't live here. Pack up. Get out.
Yup, I did that. Didn't like the hypocrisy and the holier-than-thou religious claptrap. I now live on a frozen island in the Sea of Okhotsk where fresh vegetables are scarce and water supply inconsistent.
But no holier-than-thou religious claptrap. I'm much happier.
Well done, Al republican, you once again managed to hijack a thread and turn it into a billboard to spout your racist agenda.
The very fact that you can judge people so harshly, based on stereotypes (in this case colonial), but then expect everyone to never question or judge anything about your culture, your way of life, shows what a repulsive, selfish and hyporcritical human being you are.
-MO
He smoked it outside but they caught him cause the effects were showing up in the UAE
Why was the kid arrested? The Gulf News story says he was crying at the airport, and the police suspected he was on drugs, and A-HA, tests revealed that he had smoked hash the previous day. That's a ludicrous narrative. It sounds like something from the 1950s. Reefer madness and all that.
thats quite sad for this boy, especially since he'd didnt even use the stuff while in UAE..so what about the likes of Dallas Austin, Prasad Bidappa..and who know how long the list is...who've been let go despite having been caught with possession or drugs?
Hypocites..
Inconsistent...
Tim Newman.......
"And the USA, which you berate later in your post, has provided no opportunties to anyone, of course!"
Did I say anywhere in the post the USA has provided no opportunity? I just said it wasnt much of an opoortunity to the native american. And also your holier than thou approach of we know best has been responsible for crimes over the years that defy the imagination; Continental size extinctions.
"Yup, I did that. Didn't like the hypocrisy and the holier-than-thou religious claptrap. I now live on a frozen island in the Sea of Okhotsk where fresh vegetables are scarce and water supply inconsistent"
I bet you, you live like a king in that desolate land, women throw themselves at you for your huge expat salary. I say good luck to you, enjoy yourself. I hope you dont turn against them in the future.
Uaeiyah SAID:
If you frickin idiots think our country is 'strange' and not up to your so called 'standards'get the hell out...let's see how well you do in your own bloody country...
oh and FYI you LIVE off our prosperity so stop complaining like nagging wives and go back to your own HOME country if you hate it so much here (UAE/Dubai)...
Did I say anywhere in the post the USA has provided no opportunity?
No. But you did say:
Please dont slag a place that has provided opportunities for so many people.
So if provision of opportunities is the criteria for avoiding criticism, why do you then go on to criticise the USA? Or is the USA not entitled to the same exemption you are asking of the UAE?
I bet you, you live like a king in that desolate land,
Ha! I live in a 1960s Soviet housing block, the electricity and water supply is intermittent, the communal entrance stinks of piss and is sometimes occupied by tramps, the lift works only half the time and the buttons therein have been set on fire, and I am unable to buy fresh meat or vegetables on a regular basis, nor get medical treatment which does not involve large metal objects wielded by a large Russian nurse. Living like a king, indeed!
...women throw themselves at you for your huge expat salary.
If they were doing that, I think my wife would have intervened by now.
To: Uaeiyah
Well well well, what have we here? another arrogant nitwit trying to kick everyones butt out of his/her beloved paradise country?!
Imagine if all of the expats there are as intolerant as me along with the others who can't stand your nerves and your kind of thinking who are much better off now after deciding to leave, I wonder what will become of UAE? Would love to see a ghost town throned by some 900K+ unskilled, illiterate idiots. believe me, i know! i've worked with them...
yours truyly,
filipino happily earning way much better in my home country minus the discrimination!
The Great UAE Drama :)
HAPPY IN AFRICA RETURNS :-)
alo al replikan. veil hitler!!!
first of all, i am not from any of your colonist countries, not from africa.just goes on show how racist and prejudiced you really need to be, to belong to this region, and relate everything to racial origin.i did not slag off arabs or muslims, just a sad place called dubai which believes marketing hype can make shit smell like roses.anyways,to stick to the point i dont think i need to get into your trap shooting off in the wrong direction. hold your horses brother...beace!!! and everything is not about comparison to a worse place the moment a finger is pointed in Dubai, sometimes you need to look within.
as for GET OUT IF YOU DONT LIKE IT , since i got out you really dont have a choice do you. AND AGAIN, GETTING IN OR GETTING OUT IS MY CHOICE BUDDY, NOT YOURS. TELL YOUR COUNTRY TO STOP ISSUING LABOR VISAS FOR A CHANGE WILL YOU. THEN YOU CAN TELL ME TO GET OUT.DESPERATE COUNTRY ISSUES LABOR VISA, AND WHEN PEOPLE CRITICISE SOMETHING, YOU BLOW YOUR TOP.OPEN YOUR EYES. WHEN DID I LAST HEAR YOU SAY ANYTHING WRONG about DUBAI? SO PERFECT LIL WORLD IS IT NOT. I came to Dubai, not on your invite, companies are desperate for people of my skills, and i find my own job. i thought it would be fun to work around the world for a while, realised Dubai was not, moved on to africa where i use my skills to build businesses. next time you issue me the visa, i will ask for your opinion on when to get out :-). But then you would not understand any of what i wrote i guess, travelling and experiencing anything other than shopping would be alien to some.
wow, i smell controversy here...
so then it would be a nice reporter here.
Again... this has nothing to do with rasism but about an injustice system.
So many words, so little sense....
It says a lot of who you people are.
AMEN to Tim Newman and HAPPY IN AFRICA! ;-)
Oh well, I'm not sure if some of these people have a single clue of what you've been pointing out. Brains, if there's any, the size of an ant.
I'd say let them show their arrogance and give them credit with what their money has made out of dubai (sorry expats, your technical expertise doesn't count here) than see them terrorize the world with their baloney holy war!
SD please post... (i understand why you didnt post my previous comment)
-Filipino happy to be home and free from discrimination.
@Al Republican
Just to point out that I am from Sri Lanka, born and raised in the UAE and have left to Australia now and I feel so much better here than in that gold plated dump. :)
/didn't like it and left.
More than third world!
Harassed a woman being well known = 0 years.
Ask Dr. Saukkonen, he is free, he is not an Indian like me!
There's something many people, who are now passionately yelling at each other seem to forget. You can dislike a lot of things about a place.. and then you can dislike the place itself.
Most people who complain about things in Dubai are exhibiting a dislike (albeit, a passionate one) of things about Dubai and not of Dubai itself. Some are just whining cause they are used to doing so. Some are genuinely interested in seeing things get better. There's nothing wrong with trying to make a place better (whatever 'better' means to you).
Then there are people who dislike Dubai itself. These people usually leave. Obviously, if you don't like T-bone steak, you don't order it. You don't necessarily stop coming to a restaurant that offers a lot of other things that you enjoy.
The problem it seems that there are more and more things to dislike that it threatens to overtake the nice things about Dubai.
I can tell you one thing though -- I would have left Dubai this year if I hadn't already made a long-term commitment. I will fulfill my commitments and move as far away as I can possibly go.
No, it's not because I hate Dubai. I just need some change.
Was really wondering when this was gonna be picked up. I totally agree with the notion that people should not be prosecuted for what they put in their body. If you wanna keep the country clean and not allow drugs in the country thats fine, but puuting a kid inside for experiencing a high is plain bullshit. Just cause the freakin illiterate and wastrels couldnt keep their noses off the Horse Tranquilizers and the Afghan smokes, doesnt mean you should have barbaric rules for everyone. Anyone who's been around in Dubai for some time will know all about how openly things are available in Dubai. I would suggest the authorities to keep a close check on whats wrong in the house before they go on reprimanding guests. Legalize it!
Tim Newman said:
"Ha! I live in a 1960s Soviet housing block, the electricity and water supply is intermittent, the communal entrance stinks of piss and is sometimes occupied by tramps, the lift works only half the time and the buttons therein have been set on fire, and I am unable to buy fresh meat or vegetables on a regular basis, nor get medical treatment which does not involve large metal objects wielded by a large Russian nurse. Living like a king, indeed!"
Nice to see you are finally in a place you deserve to be. I still think you are doing much better than you deserve.
Earthbound Misfit: Good, emotional comeback. However, what's your point?
Shaper85: Happy to know you are doing well in down under! I was supporting your team in the finals against the Aussies. Tough luck though. I know a couple of sri lankan players actually who would prefer Dubai over Aussie land anyday. I guess you don't remember the racist outbursts against Sri Lankans in the mid 90's that led to some serious problems between the 2 countries?
In any event, you did the right thing. You chose to move to a land where racism is a norm. Try checking up with UN surveys and reports and you will know that Australia is comfortably placed at number 1 in all-things-racist.
Dubai will always welcome you back, I am sure :)
Nice to see you are finally in a place you deserve to be. I still think you are doing much better than you deserve.
So do I deserve to be there or not? Talk sense, boy!!
hehe....i kinda lost my brains somewhere outtha when some of ur comments were detoured....
i say: get out, smoke up and live in bliss...just make sure ur pupils aren't dialated on ur trip back....;)
Every emaratis defence seems to be the same ( you dont like, leave ) . Asking the expats to leave will not be very good for you lot either. From Sony TV to Rice, expats have brought you everything. The local business tycoons can't survive without expats. When we critisize, listen! We leave our countries in search of opportunities. Tomorrows conditions might suggest its better to move off to London,Singapore etc etc, we will move. We are the kind that searches for personal growth. In the meanwhile, we end up doing something good for the country that we have stayed in to make this so called big buck. You piss us off.. we will eventually leave.
Us whiners leaving might sound like heaven to you, but whos going to be your secretary, whos going to manage your companys, whos going to clean your buildings,
Whos going to design your buildings?? Hell, im not even sure if a local designed the historic bastakia..most probably an expat.
Face it, you need us. Treat us right and you rich and at the same time make some money for ourselves.
And oh..almost forgot..whos going to buy all your ridiculous property?
Be careful...the international expat is a very powerful tool a country needs to grow..also a very dangerous person to piss off
Tim Newman: So do I deserve to be there or not? Talk sense, boy!!
LOL - You'll never get any sense from an Indian!
Dudes
Dubai is a lot better than most places else. Its ok ta have hookers.. they help keep the sex crimes down... ther are lotsa single men in Dubai.. and its always better to bang the hookers than your neighbours wives coz with dem hookers its the contract... Its great that theres no mary jane or hash or anythin... its hard to keep away from the stuff when its easily there. Yeah.. go get yer kick somewhere else, at least ya stay happy knowin your kids not on weed... or is not exposed to the dope or gangsta stuff... Ya dont have that security in lot other places. One armed robbery from Thor knows how long. And the guys are caught already. Thats how a it should be. Not having them kids with guns shooting evryone down in college.. where would you rather live in, dude?
Gentlemen, you are talking about nothing. I tell you: there are people who are held behind bars for +4 years because of smoking cannabis in Amsterdam or has in Morocco, or chewing on Yemeni "chat" herb, or posession of porn, while coming to Dubai only as TRANSIT! THAT MEANS THEY DID NOT EVEN ENTER THE UAE OFFICIALLY!!! Where is human rights? How can they distroy someone's life for committing an act in another country that does not take that act as a crime?!! HUMAN RIGHTS WATCH WAKE UP!!!!
p.s. The last rape crime to a 12 year-old student girl that took place last month: the sentense to the rapist was only Dhs 2000 fine, 2 months in jail + departure.
Kudos to the previous poster above me, I was about to point out myself that a lot of times you find people being hauled up for something without having passed through immigration - nor shall they.
Go Home. The UAE has made me a rich man, why should I care about your sorry asses with problems. I stay out of jail, frequent your hookers, get pissed every night, eat well...... life is grand, if you are so misserable, go home... then I might be able to afford some property.
As gathered, I have only recently found this and a few other very entertaining, witty and wise blogs.
Kudos to all!!
I have only one question about the 18 yr old...
If he smoke it 24 hours before returning to the UAE - how did they know he did it...?? Did he go for a blood test for a visa and "Ooops" there were traces?? Really, how did they "discover" the boy had done the naughty??
adam wasnt made for eve, but for saddam
haha. i think u all should chill out. just follow ur hearts and do whats right, if u have to leave just leave, if u wanna stay , stay. we as human beings tend to not be happy wherevr we go. so its pretty normal..stop judging anyone who has some reservations.
some business elite in the UAE believe themselves to be above the law....a perfect example in this regard is the Habtoor family,they own schools but held a son one of them had with a British girl in Dubai for years against a UK ruling of granting custody to the mother....and there are rumours this is not their only case involving western girls.There have been chats in certain circles..and word has been spreading...the story is a really bad one..
Because of the shocking, unjustified and inhumane treatment suffered by different nationalities visiting/working in UAE, I, including my families and friends will never visit UAE again.
What a load of bollocks, 1 year for murder and 3 years for rape? The fuck do you get your information from?! You and I both know thats just plain old bullshit.
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